Everyday Concerned Citizen
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Interview URL
https://youtu.be/f6Ae9JLFXnE
Cleaning up transcript ( draft in progress 4/23/2018)
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Ramola D. : HI Everyone Good Afternoon This is Ramola D from Ramola D reports.
I'm here today with Angela Kneale from Hawaii.
She's originally from Pennsylvania, She's traveled a great deal.
She has a very interesting family background that spans continents,
Both America & Japan. And, her story today is going to include/cover a variety of fields. Including her very own field,
She is a classical pianist. She's also a business consultant in Organizational development.
And, we're going to hear a little bit about a story that spans a childhood in Pennsylvania,
Family in Japan, Intelligence, the Export Import industry, a very illustrious Japanese family, and
What She's currently doing in Hawaii. So welcome Angela. (0:51)
So glad you joined me today.
Angela: Hi, Thank you Ramola, thank you for your time & your dedication
I'm grateful for this time.
Interviewer Ramola D: You're very Welcome (1:04)
I'm glad to you know see a little bit of Hawaii behind you. (laughter)
I think the previous times we've talked I've seen a little of the mountains n& such behind,
it's always interesting.
Angela: Yeah, I can step outside for a minute.
Interviewer Ramola: Uh, if you want to.
Whatever works with our connection out/over here. (1:27)
Angela: It's Lunch, away from most of the cell towers. I'm at Green World This is a Coffee farm where you can get coffee & free wi-fi.
& there's a sign for the North Shore back there.
Interviewer Ramola: And you're on a bigger island out there. (you're on one of the bigger islands in Hawaii 1:48)
Angela: I'm on Oahu. It's really beautiful out here.
Interviewer Ramola D: Yeah it certainly looks it. And look at the weather my goodness, Everybody/Everyone on the East Coast is dreaming of Spring and you're full blown Summer.
2:03
Angela: Yeah it's beautiful out here.
Interviewer Ramola D.: So/And
How long have you been in Hawaii Angela? if you want to talk about that at all.
I've been here for most of 8 years.
OK & it's a little bit Different from the East Coast where you were originally right. You went to School on the East Coast
Angela: Yeah it's very different than 2:29
Philadelphia having soft pretzels and something warm to eat whn it's snowing and you're getting blasted by the car exhaust.
Out here it's allot more;- Clean air, and ocean, & sunlight allot fewer activities that are sedentary.
Interviewer Ramola D: That's great, that's great, that's wonderful. A very outdoorsy kind of place it sounds like. Whales & Dolphins in the Ocean, do you see them?
Angela: Oh yes definitely, and the Turtles, every body's favorite.
Interviewer Ramola D.: Oh brilliant brilliant wonderful. So, Angela where did you want to start? Do you want to talk a little about 3:05 Your background in Pennsylvania & growing up there & your family.
So, your family is kind of a biracial family, right?
Angela M Kneale: Yes, My parents got married just, just slightly after they passed the 1st laws in the United States allowing mixed race marriage, in the mainland.
Ramola D.: Oh Wow.
Angela M. Kneale
It's a normal thing for Hawaii, for Hawaii as a Nation, mixed race was normal but,
when the United States allowed it, it wasn't till the mid or late 60's So, that was a brand new thing when my mom came to the United States. And, my parents had actually stopped in Hawaii. but, my mom was allergic to most of the plants here so, they went to my Father's hometown Philadelphia &
Ramola D.: Great.
Angela M. Kneale: And so they lived out there.
Ramola D: Yeah and so Hawaii was a stop to get there. And your mother comes from a very fairly well known Japanese family?
Angela M. Kneale: Yeah, I don't get allot of information becaus, obviously with Hiroshima & the A bombings there's allot of sensitivity. So, my mom's family had been involved with National Security in a sense (trying to translate it the best that I can) for a very long time. I guess putting the word "merchants" on the family name. also merchants (5:02) mom's side also. guess the more modern part of it has evolved into my uncle being a retired executive of the Takenaka Corporation, his last name being Takenaka Ta-Ke-Na-Ka and founding family and he was a steel broker / steel purchaser also grew up in Pennsylvania near Bethlehem Steel, and I grew up around Bethlehem Steel Executives and people hauling the steel. (signal cutting out)
Interviewer Ramola D: So the Steel Industry is dogging your family both sides.
Angela M Kneale : Yeah, I don't know how much my Dad's family is actually involved in Steel (signal cutting out), but my parents had a difficult time starting a family. When my mom came to Philadelphia and thy were kind of pushed out of (signal cutting out) Philadelphia. Most of the people were familiar with African American, &they were very anti-Asian. so My great grandmother who lived in Bucks County. kind of took my parents in in a sense she was much more cultured & diverse & she was a singer who taught voice lessons. Rodgers & Hammerstein had been in that area in Her lifetime, and they vacationed in their homes out there in Dublin, PA. So, my mom & my dad had a very difficult time starting up a family.
Interviewer Ramola D.: So what are some of your memories of Philadelphia & Pennsylvania growing up?
(7:00)
Angela M Kneale: (7:09) For me, I love being out in the Country, I loved picking
raspberries off the hedge row, & crab apples & those Pennsylvania things. Which isn't very different from the part of Japan my mom's from.
Interviewer D.:Oh Interesting
Angela: Because, Yeah, We're at about the same Latitude.
I know it was a topic of discussion when I went to College, about this Latitude going into a park in Oga, AKITA prefecture, in Japan to kind of remember us, our family.
as a way to remember us, our family as we've had losses my sister & my Brother. So in Oga national park;- one of my Uncle's in Japan kind of takes care of the mountains & gives the film permits for like IE , Korean spy Drama "Iris" in Akit, it was filmed in that part of Japan. It's very very far north, but there are People from India, Pakistan, Korea everywhere who go study at Universities there as well as live permanently. (8:19) But that stone went into the park as kind of a reminder of us. And the climate, the growing climate is very similar.
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Interviewer Ramola D. : So that's Interesting, so it sounds like you have some memories of both places it sounds like as of your childhood. So there's some very interesting things you were talking about in Pennsylvania. You made a video about a book that you found. would you like to
Angela M Kneale:Yeah, that's called my Spooky Creepy neighbors.
When you're a little kid, your parents don't explain things to you like this. My mom was just like;-
-She taught me separately from what my Father allowed.
My father being white, my mom Japanese. -
"Don't go that way because they'll shoot you." and " You're only tolerated because you're not black."
So the spooky creepy neighbors of mine are connected to a cult, whether they have active membership or not, that's called the Rosicrucians. And, only in the most recent 5 years ( I think the History Channel even did a special on, that included Agenda21 & the Rosacrucians. The Rosacrucians had been something that I think Ben Franklin belonged to and maybe some of th Founding father's of the United SA>
But, when 9-11 happened they had, it was talked about in our Church.
I belonged to an interfaith church, So in the church communities that came together around the Tri-State Area. They (Rosacrucians) were kind of ostracized after 9-11 for being Too white, too white supremacist. and since I have had my own direct experiences fighting with (as in against) the white supremacists and the KKK specifically in Pennsylvania I know this to be true, that
They use the local churches to organize their freedom of religion and discrimination underneath the church. So, the Rosacrucians was literally about a mile, mile & 1/2 or so from my house. And I think it's become a more dangerous area because after my brother was killed in 2005,
they were doing a serious recruitment. And not just for the Rosacrucians, but the local white supremacist movement was starting to recruit. So it actually felt like it was worse than when I was a Child.
Interviewer Ramola D. : That's amazing, so you've Touched on a wide variety of neighborhood, and the fact they belonged to a cult, and perhaps maybe not the Rosacrucians you're talking about in your neighborhood, you know not that specific branch of the cult. There is some information on-line (11:27)I think about them. But you also talked about your brother being killed in 2005, did you want to talk about that? talk about that alittle bit.
Angela M. Kneale: Yeah, this is a really volatile subject. But I have,
in my private public on-line blogging since no-one reads my blog. It's a line out to my family in Japan as of course I'm monitored. My brother was not just killed. It was he was forced to death is my perception of it. He was forced to death. I don't know who pulled the trigger on him. It's not something I've been allowed to talk about.
Because I was kinda sent away to Cool-off. And, it's infuriating, but my...and I'll share this publicly as i've posted on-line. And, My brother worked directly for Clymer's company, Valley Precision Company my brother did CNC machinery. And my parents are proud of him for you know, having a good job, and getting along with the neighbors, and republican, and blah blah blah
But my brother actually had his own little campaigns going on where he was fighting with some of the white supremacists & churches and also told me about their illegal gun production. So he was telling me they were making over 4 or five-hundred guns a within a weeks time, without the serial numbers. So he was being pressured to do that and most of the company was white and he was telling me he didn't like the racism in the company.
Interviewer Ramola D. : Can I stop you? When you said CNC Machinery does it have something to do with Guns? Making guns?
(13:25)
Angela: yeah, it's basically they program the machinery to machine the guns. So, basically he was a machinist, a computer machinist.
Ramola: So Okay Okay, therefore he was getting orders from these people were actually manufacturing under the table.
Angela:(hesitant) Riight
so obviously, they denied cult connections and things that, that was something he shared with me.
It got to the point where I actually made a phone call to the ATF.
And, it was supposed to be an anonymous phone call. But, like my voting record had not been kept private in that specific area, when I voted in my hometown. People would get in my face about how I voted.
Angela M. Kneale: So I knew
Ramola D.: Oh Wow.
Angela M. Kneale: they weren't even keeping my voting record private.
I have not had privacy in a very long time. So, When I made the call , I know that his boss came to the house & told my dad that he didn't think my brother should be Alive anymore. And so, it took weeks. But, I wasn't always at the house. I was, part of the week for me I taught at a Conservatory in Doylestown PA. I was Faculty, piano Faculty in Doylestown at the Community Conservatory of Music & Art , and then I would travel to Ithaca, NY where my Alma Mater is that I went to my undergrad music college at Ithaca. And I would teach at Ithaca CSMA on the Weekends. And, I had my friends who played in bands around Ithaca.
So, I wasn't there full time. I was there part of the week to teach So then the weekend portion I was out of the state. I didn't like being in Pennsylvania because of the racism I experienced throughout (15:33) elementary school to High school. So I actually didn't go home very much. This is probably hard to follow. But once I made it to college at 17 & I didn't go home fo a long time, for a good 10 years.
ramola D.: It's not hard to Follow, We can keep up with you. I thinkth kind of the stream of the Story over here. ok so I understand, So you were really drawn to stay away from Pennsylvania because of the Racism. from what you experienced (16:10) as a child, even as a child in Elementary school , and so forth.
16:12
Yeah plus my friends urged me. I had friends who had gone to MIT who had, you know, they r on the New Jersey side, you know they would share with me other women's experiences from my home state (Pennsylvania). Where women on the books were still considered cattle. Even ther illegal Programs MK Ultra as in textbook style MKULTRA in Pennsylvania mak sns becaus allowed Corporal punishment. 16:44 So, I mean, when those things are legal it's very difficult to take someone to court over any type of abuse.
Angela Kneale: no matter how severe
Ramola D: yeah yeah so you had a kind of a busy moving kind of life that sounds like. And, and what about the rest of your family?
Angela M. Kneale: My father was Air Force there's a Warrant Officer, very different they don't have Warrant officers anymore in the United States Air Force. He was supposedly Air Force OSI with top-secret, Above Top Secret clearance and was declassified in 2001. He used to fix c-130's and from what I can gather I don't have much verification he ran spooks & c-130's and I'm not supposed to say this, but; He been a printer for host of his tradesmen career. My mom being Japanese really liked having her husband's around you know instead being a manager or somebody who travel an executive who travels.
Ramola D. : mm-hmm
Angela Kneale: my mom had cancer when I was child. My mom had me very late so I'm not in a normal bracket. She would tell me stories of very famous Japanese women who married British pops musicians, you know.
Ramola D.: right
Angela Kneale: how everybody was after Hiroshima got bombd . and growing up in & after the war not having having food not having things, money did not matter & it not being worth anything. so
grew up with those stories directly from my mom. ie., "Remember this is what
America is, and I suffered through this so what you go through isn't as bad."
Ramola D: interesting
Angela Kneale: My mom's perception is very, very different from somebody say from California who's used to having their beautiful luxury cars and everything. For her, kind of positioned in a place that most Japanese people would not go to, as an adult
Ramola D.: 19:04
mm-hmm
Angela Kneale: as an adult there was a group there was a group of business people who are around New York and Philadelphia who spent time to try and figure out how to do business better with the United States. So there there'd been a circle of people a network of people that were talking. Who are not military.That were civilian. But my family, my mom was from a family her status (19:38) should have been to marry an ambassador which would have been much more appropriate, I think in hindsight. But due to alot of the racism and stigmas that the United States has had against Japan, despite us having a security agreement they chose not to send her in with the diplomatic passport.
20:06
And, for me its been a struggle with whether you call it targeting;- Or, as my father told me one day, he could not protect me anymore. The CIA split into two different factions, and there are two different plans apparently. Those plans I am not completely aware of. He might have known more, but basically;- things, things changed drastically.
Ramola D: And, and when was this?
Angela Kneale: I think this was 2006.
Ramola D.: So, you were in your 20's or something?
Angela Kneale: I was in my early thirties.
Ramola D.: OKay and your dad said he couldn't protect you anymore.
20:50
Angela M. Kneale: no no like, I had a great uncle who was on the USS Langley, on the American side. He was in the Navy and he was on the Langley. and he was a gunner on the Langley, with 2 silver stars. And s, he killed Japanese at Iwo Jima. So, I mean my family is very militant.
So, whatever my dad knew, I didn't have full disclosure on.
I'm a little kid trying to grow up & I've got these two sets of family, families one on one side, one on the other side, that were like oil & water, literally. And, they told me not to get married or there would be a war. And, not to have children because somebody would kill them on one side or the other, or somebody else. And, I'm not anti, not completely anti-American. (21:50) But there is alot of BS out there with people fantasizing about who they are, you know they're not the people who killed at Iwo Jima, I know they're not my uncle, my Great-Uncle, who took me for a cheese steak. Either you know the person who pulled the trigger on the Japanse and my uncle was trying to make amends in a sense, you know and give me space from my dad's relatives. So, my personal perception is very different from the general American Public.
I understand that, but the
CIA's split apparently and the Rosicrucians people and the white supremacist had gotten so (22:31)aggressive They followed me home from one of the jobs that I had at a Telecom Company and up the driveway. And, I had gone in the house but I didn't know my mom was around the other side of the hous and they actually threatened my mother. I mean this is somebody on a motorcycle with confederate flag who was a service tech at the company Eastcom. And he came up our driveway and my mother & dad just told me I had to leave because I was atttracting the negative attention directly.
Ramola D: But why were you attracting this attention I mean I (23:08) I don't think I'm quite catching how you becam sort of um, you know, center of attention. What exactly was going on?
Angela Kneale: (23:14) I mean I think it was a couple things. Part of it was the residual from 9-11 and Japan being America's only enemy. They killed my brother, you know they had no problems using him and making sure he was dead. Not to talk about whatever else he might have known. And, I was told to remain quiet. The police also cleaned things up very quickly.
Ramola D.: Do you think his being killed had something to do with this, you know gun-running team that was an active in the neighborhood and you know using his (23:55) shop and everything it was related to them?
Angela M. Kneale: Absolutely, I made an ATF call, and I never really interacted with my neighbor, his boss even though I saw him a few times when he would come over to the house. And, I couldn't hlp but snarl at (24:16) him. I just instinctively don't likethis person. My parents, are very good friends with him, However;- so, it's very difficult for m to have a relationship with my mother. To even go back and get things like my college diploma, you know and my studio. I was basically literally chasd out of the neighborhood.
Ramola D.: By your own family?
Angela M. Kneale: By my family, by the police, the police had participated like, i had no privacy. my things that wee in storage wre rifled through by other people. I was abducted twice. Well, I was abducted once before my brother died, and then I was abducted a second time in 2006 and they just forgot, it no problem, They forgot it, and I, so for me I don't have any recourse I don't have legal recourse.
I didn't have any legal recourse even when I worked at the conservatory. And I worked over 26 hrs 25:27 and they should have had me on payroll. I couldn't find an attorney to represent me because one, I'm a minority and they were like, well you don't make enough. I was bringing the school into the school like $50/hr I get half & had contractors fee, but they didn't give me my right, and they wouldn't give me welfar, they wouldn't give me food stamps they wouldn't do anything for me in that State of Pennsylvania. I mean, it's not an uncommon story they have to go to another state to report things. But the people who have tell their story from other areas (26:02) the Amish and the abused women or whatever, they've had to go to another state. I even talked to one of my neighbors at one point and I asked why (26:14) he's very democratic by the way, so They don't even have a human rights commission any where near here bcause there's Allentown, right, Allentown doesn't apply to us, so I have have to go to Philadlphia 60 miles away. He said, "Because we couldn't afford it". (26:33) of 63min.
Ramola D.: 26:34 So there's opportunity you're saying for all sorts of entrenched Occultic Secret Society Abuse and Masonic Abuse perhaps and police who are not really on the up & up.
No, The police hacked my Facebook.They have done that I had posted an officer card because I had called the police on somebody in my family the last time I returned home. And, they hacked my facebook. I can't say that it was the police directly but most everyone I went to High School with, most of the ones who are kind of safer are on my facebook. um. and it got hacked and they took that information down.
Ramola D.: So alot of small town politics & intruige and entrenched secret society stuff going on.
Angela M. Kneale: Well yeah, I had also had bee.
one little part of it, but Bucks County going towards Doylestown where I worked & Newtown is one percenter community. So, there's also a very elite boarding school in that area. I mean the top notch elite go to that boarding school so I had worked on a customhome for somebody who had gone to that school and the buyers were somebody who Vice President of the probably largest cosmetics firm in the United States. We're not talking about a small stupid crowd of people.
Ramola D.: Right RIght, it wasn't rednecks so much as elitist and yet, very Occultic.
Angela M. Kneale: .Yeah I don't know all of the occult stuff because I feel I was somewhat kept out of it. I mean I have to unravel my own abuse, but everybody knew I was abused by the time I was in Jr. High. by th time I was in Jr. Hight.
RAMOLA D: MMhmm I'm so sorry.
Angela M. Kneale: I didn't grow up like a normal Japanese girl. I was beatenup at school pretty much daily and in my elementary school years with the teachers watching. They approved it. I'd get really brown every summer, you know from being outside. So I pretty much got beaten up every single day. And then by the time I went to Jr. High & High School, um, the abuse coming from my parents it was kind of like all day, you know rrecess was abuse, verbal abuse from the teachers, i had every single day, it got worse at High school my US cultures teacher, Everybody knew was a ravist, h used to make fun of the Jewish
they did hire a jewish professor and they would make fun of that teacher as well as me infront of the entire class. So, i wasn't treated with any respect. It wasn't even being left alone or not causeing harm, it was intended, it was intentional. for a long time.
RAMOLA D: MMhmm I'm so sorry.
Angela M. Kneale: So if it weren't for piano I wouldn't have gotten through it, that was my sacntuary.
Ramola D.: MMhmmm.
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